http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread....#pid293283
JUMP POTION INFO FINALIZED!
ALTERNATIVE TO JUMP POTION IS REVEALED: http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread....#pid290493
Halfway marker: http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread....#pid278554
Read that for info
So I've noticed a lot of (justified) hate over the idea of jump potions for all regions. The idea of buying levels to skip the mundane and dare I say...most boring part of Final Fantasy. I for one will most likely buy them.
I want to hear from the more active users about this idea. Do you embrace it? Ignore it? Quit the game over it? Feel cheated for hours put into grinding? Middle of the road?
I'm sure some of you have some words.
Update 1: So far the replies are indeed in some agreement or middle ground. I am so glad this community is really calm and thoughtful about all possibilities :3 And if we somehow get more information from the Fanfest in Japan about this, do feel free to mention it.
Update 2: So a few points being brought up in this thread are as followed...and my opinions on these for once.
- Not everyone reads/watches Dialogue/Cinematics and some just want to get to endgame.
This is true. My first time leveling through 2.0 back when it first launch was all about reading and watching the text...and then the patch content came and by 2.2 I was skipping all the filler cinematics and saying 'LET ME FIGHT LEVIATHAN ALREADY GODDAMMIT!' which is kind of bad.
In today's internet, information about the story is widely digestible in smaller formats for any RPer looking to get into it and frankly, not everyone can remember every little detail without some googling.Â
So the ease of technology is partial to blame (Even now the Lorebook doesn't seem like a good purchase with people sharing images online...unless you are like me and most RPers who want a physical thing to read offline)
- Jump Potions would bring more bad than good.Â
The Jump potions atm in China get players to level 50 which is 10 levels below the current cap and skips over all but Heavensward xpac content. With seeing how the level 90/100 boost worked in world of warcraft, i can say it will only do harm if it came out about a few months before the next xpac and the boost got people to level 60 and skipped ALL of the Heavensward storyquests for them. That is a crime and shame when there is time to do it.
So it will bring more people in to play (even if frustrations will arise of occasional 'WTF DO I DO' people.) and read guides. Fun fact too, one of my current mythic raiders in wow started in Warlords...as a boosted character. He's a damn good hunter asking questions and getting a rotation down. It's a rare sight but those players DO exist.
- Skipping levels kills the experience/charm/story of the MMO.
And not being able to play with your friends can make or break your MMO experience. Face it. Leveling is an outdated model the moment expansions are introduced to a video game. Vanilla wow for instance had 60 levels and two large zones at release. By Burning Crusade...those zones were EMPTY (say for occasional rep grinders if bored or gathering those mats for vanilla potions and such) and everyone was in Shattarath more than anything. As expansions continue, those zones become outdated and left barren.
Yes, I am in the boat that your first time through you SHOULD level through the content from scratch on a toon...but in FF14's case as others pointed out, you have to wallow through hours of meaningless filler from 2.0 era that had to tie you over until the next big patch that introduced maybe another turn of Coils, another level of Crystal tower and 2-3 new dungeons.
Solutions are introduced and the Khole book was a good solution (even if i see it as a lotto ticket
) but it will never fix the problem of that initial start.
I know i said i wouldn't put my opinions but I felt like breaking it for you guys. After all, I'm the other mmo player with RP in FF14. So i have felt a lot of that initial bad wave back in Mists of Pandaria.
Thank you for the continuation of opinions and sharing your thoughts to your fellow FF14 players and RPers. I love how Civil you guys are
JUMP POTION INFO FINALIZED!
ALTERNATIVE TO JUMP POTION IS REVEALED: http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread....#pid290493
Halfway marker: http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread....#pid278554
Read that for info
So I've noticed a lot of (justified) hate over the idea of jump potions for all regions. The idea of buying levels to skip the mundane and dare I say...most boring part of Final Fantasy. I for one will most likely buy them.
I want to hear from the more active users about this idea. Do you embrace it? Ignore it? Quit the game over it? Feel cheated for hours put into grinding? Middle of the road?
I'm sure some of you have some words.
Update 1: So far the replies are indeed in some agreement or middle ground. I am so glad this community is really calm and thoughtful about all possibilities :3 And if we somehow get more information from the Fanfest in Japan about this, do feel free to mention it.
Update 2: So a few points being brought up in this thread are as followed...and my opinions on these for once.
- Not everyone reads/watches Dialogue/Cinematics and some just want to get to endgame.
This is true. My first time leveling through 2.0 back when it first launch was all about reading and watching the text...and then the patch content came and by 2.2 I was skipping all the filler cinematics and saying 'LET ME FIGHT LEVIATHAN ALREADY GODDAMMIT!' which is kind of bad.
In today's internet, information about the story is widely digestible in smaller formats for any RPer looking to get into it and frankly, not everyone can remember every little detail without some googling.Â
So the ease of technology is partial to blame (Even now the Lorebook doesn't seem like a good purchase with people sharing images online...unless you are like me and most RPers who want a physical thing to read offline)
- Jump Potions would bring more bad than good.Â
The Jump potions atm in China get players to level 50 which is 10 levels below the current cap and skips over all but Heavensward xpac content. With seeing how the level 90/100 boost worked in world of warcraft, i can say it will only do harm if it came out about a few months before the next xpac and the boost got people to level 60 and skipped ALL of the Heavensward storyquests for them. That is a crime and shame when there is time to do it.
So it will bring more people in to play (even if frustrations will arise of occasional 'WTF DO I DO' people.) and read guides. Fun fact too, one of my current mythic raiders in wow started in Warlords...as a boosted character. He's a damn good hunter asking questions and getting a rotation down. It's a rare sight but those players DO exist.
- Skipping levels kills the experience/charm/story of the MMO.
And not being able to play with your friends can make or break your MMO experience. Face it. Leveling is an outdated model the moment expansions are introduced to a video game. Vanilla wow for instance had 60 levels and two large zones at release. By Burning Crusade...those zones were EMPTY (say for occasional rep grinders if bored or gathering those mats for vanilla potions and such) and everyone was in Shattarath more than anything. As expansions continue, those zones become outdated and left barren.
Yes, I am in the boat that your first time through you SHOULD level through the content from scratch on a toon...but in FF14's case as others pointed out, you have to wallow through hours of meaningless filler from 2.0 era that had to tie you over until the next big patch that introduced maybe another turn of Coils, another level of Crystal tower and 2-3 new dungeons.
Solutions are introduced and the Khole book was a good solution (even if i see it as a lotto ticket
) but it will never fix the problem of that initial start.I know i said i wouldn't put my opinions but I felt like breaking it for you guys. After all, I'm the other mmo player with RP in FF14. So i have felt a lot of that initial bad wave back in Mists of Pandaria.
Thank you for the continuation of opinions and sharing your thoughts to your fellow FF14 players and RPers. I love how Civil you guys are
