(09-01-2016, 12:03 PM)Valence Wrote: If a mob seems to stay aggroed on someone else stubbornly no matter what (for whatever reason), take the habit to use Provoke on it and them immediately shield lob or whatever ranged attack enmity generating move you have. Provoke is awesome for that in that it puts you at the top of the enmity list, even if someone has already built a huge aggro on said mob. So the mob should get back to you pretty meekly normally. Then spamm flash for good measure to be sure they stay there or no other one starts to get ideas.
Also I assume you still don't have Shield Oath at that level, so you are still stuck with the low level aggro nightmare most tanks have to deal with (especially GLA). People should be a bit more tolerant when they get a tank of that class.
Note that if you keep losing aggro it's also possible that some genius in your party always starts aggroing everything before you do (mobs are still yellow for example). And then with just flash it gets a nightmare to get everything back especially if you have to run all around for that. It is also possible that a funny white mage gets the idea to cast regen on you before you engage, which will build aggro on the healer at the start instead of the tank. It is also posible that the DPSes are all single targeting a different mob, which will build aggro pretty fast on several mobs at once that flash will have difficulties to deal with.
I think you should keep an eye on what your party is going because you maybe are not the only one at fault in those cases.
Feel free to add me as friend if you need help or anything ingame! I can possible tag along with you in roulettes and help. Though my timezone may screw with things but well.
(09-01-2016, 12:53 PM)Kage Wrote: Since you don't know what's going on I can't accurately tell you what might have went wrong.
Take note that shifting sands targets a random player so it it's not as if it is stationary. You may have to constantly move.
Cutter's cry is in the range where you as a PLD are stuck with using Sword Oath until you hit 40 (max level you can be in Cutter's) where you get Shield Oath. It's not very easy but it is certainly doable to hold aggro in Sword Oath and as a PLD here.
Are you pulling while being buffed? Are you pulling when you have a HoT (Heal over time)? Typically at that level it's an Aspected Regen-like AST buff or the WHM's Regen (green icon would be on your buff bar). The enemies shouldn't be so easily  ignoring your flash if they're in range and you've used it 2+ times. (Rule of thumb is that you flash around the same number of times as you have enemies and spread your aggro combo: Fast Blade -> Savage Blade -> Rage of Halone)
Also, how well updated is your gear, especially your sword?
Also, if you have ranged and they wail on the mobs as soon as you shield lob and haven't used flash they will get aggro much faster.
I thought I'd responded to this already. Oops. XD Thanks for the advice (and the offer of help, but my Paladin happens to be my one Diabolos char). Ylva is quite undergeared; she's using level 30 stuff still. I need to catch up on main quest to fix that.
Is it true that higher level gear attracts more aggro? I see people talk about low geared people being unable to hold aggro with higher levels around.
I seem to either be posting in this thread or the good PUG thread. I don't seem to get stuff in between lol.
Today I got a PUG for Palace of the Dead 20-30. Seeing as they don't restrict classes we ended up with tank, DPS and two healers. The other healer stuck Cleric Stance on immediately and left most of the healing to me, which was fine. Halfway through the level though the DPS runs off without the rest of the party. I was dumb enough to follow him, thinking he would get himself killed alone. Well, he did after 4 things swarmed him and I couldn't heal him fast enough to keep up. Then they proceeded to take me out as well.
We got raised and he told me to learn how to do my job. Seeing as I'd chased his ass just to try and make sure that he didn't die I rather resented that. The next time he ran off and got killed (and he did) he was on his own!
