(02-13-2015, 06:09 PM)Mamushi Wrote: Why not just ban selling services here period? If RPC going to prohibit gil artists from advertising they may as well prohibit cash artists as well. Offering any other kind of outside-the-game service for gil/cash would be frowned upon so why make an exception?
The most obvious statement is about art for gil, but yes, any post that actually (as opposed to purely in jest or in theory discussing the practice) offers a trade of in game consideration for real life consideration will be deleted.
Trades of art (a real life consideration) for cash (a real life consideration) don't seem to run afoul of the LGM's statement regarding TOS, so those are okay.
(02-13-2015, 06:09 PM)Mamushi Wrote: Or, better yet, retract the new policy and let those willing to take the risk to accept gil commissions continue to do so. They're aware of the potential consequences, leave up to them to decide if its worth it.
It's not just those people who are at risk. The license under which much of this site is permitted to exist does not permit us to actively assist in the violation of TOS. That's why posts about server emulators, bot software, and parsers are forbidden as well.
Frankly, the larger risk is to the site, and unless you're planning on paying for a lawyer for me, that's an unacceptable risk. Therefore, the policy stays.
(02-13-2015, 06:51 PM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote: A Terms of Service has never flown in court so I wouldn't even worry about enforcing this totally absurd, likely misinterpreted dialog from a GM of all people.
Edit: Also said GM used the words 'would' and 'may', which doesn't really mean they're actually enforcing it, not unlike how no one at Anet cared about people like me using the Combat Mode mod in GW2.
I mean, except for the WoW bots case, or the Battle.net emulator, or various private settlements of which I'm aware between Oracle and companies over violations of the rather restrictive TOS for certain Oracle online services...
All, please believe when I say that I think SE is doing something heavy-handed and dumb. However, please also believe me that we are subject to a license agreement with them for the very existence of this site. I love you all, and I'll take reasonable steps to fight aggressive legal dickery, but my real life takes precedence over this site. I'm not going to spend incredible amounts of my own money to fight SE's legal department. Is it likely they'd come down here with a hammer over art for gil? Probably not, but there's a lot of instances of them deciding something is a risk to them and unleashing destruction from the heavens. They are capricious.
The only reason I haven't cut the posts talking about "well, you can do X or Y to get around the exact statement by the LGM" is because this is, of course, just a discussion thread, the posts are certainly in jest, and no one is actually going to do any of that -- and if you do, I don't want to know about it.
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