Asyria Wrote:As I crafter, what I do is I make the time first, then exchange it for payment.
The problem here is that the materials themselves can have a high value anyway, even moreso if the end-item is something the scammer wants or could use on his main combat discipline.
Quote:Quote:Now the HQ item issue... there is nothing, absolutely nothing, wrong with asking a significantly higher price. It IS significantly better and so is worth more. No scam there.Asyria, in all fairness, if it's using your mats, not the crafter's, then the crafter is completely in the wrong to try to bring up the price for the product you commissioned them to make, if it's with their mats, they can feel free to charge what they want, that's not the issue at hand though, the issue is if they are utilizing your mats to make something you commissioned them to make, there is absolutely everything wrong with going back on a trade agreement and taking someone else's money and materials and then trying to make them pay more for you basically getting lucky while crafting.
However!
The crafter, in all fairness, should always offer the option of making another item, without getting that Quality too high (Rapid spam) and sell it at the originally agreed price.
Consider it like this. You do an outstanding job at creating an item, someone will come back to you for custom. HQ results aren't just a random chance, they are directly effected by HOW a crafter does the synth and therefore it is inappropriate (in my eyes) to turn around and extort the situation for more gil.
Quote:I personally don't care. Half of it would end up being slander and rumors sooner or later. I prefer to simply trade completed items for payment in one trade, it's pretty scam-proof.
If I am to give mats for someone to craft something with, I'll seek friends/shell-mates.
I'm not sure if a list is a good idea either.
Nira Muzyka Wrote:EDIT: Freyar, unless you paid them before hand, the loss would simply be the mats, in which case, it sucks, but you took the risk knowing the synth could fail, it's the same as doing it yourself, only difference being that if it succeeds you pay the person crafting it for you.
While true, the loss of materials to scammers is an unnecessary loss. I can understand a failed synth, I've had it happen twice while getting myself pushed up the weapon chain in THM, which not only used my mats, but my mainhand as well. A linkshell member did it so it was absolutely no big deal, though.
In terms of business, the loss of these materials can result in a significant loss of time and gil in the long run, and will only become worse as more people pick up this trade.
