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Chveya · **09-23-2010, 04:06 AM**

Kashemia Wrote:
Veedo Wrote:In regards to your final part. Getting the goggles wouldn't be breaking the law if we kept them.

True, hehe, I wasn't really calculating the law into it. Then let's say... You're ordering icecream, and your friend accidently get 3 scoops instead of 2? Or wait, I guess that could be concidered illegal too... Damn you, silly law system!

Your examples are cute, and sound a lot like the sort of analogies I'd try to make up. They made me laugh. Smile

However, it's not entirely accurate. When the same group of people are all paying the same amount of money for a stated service, it's not unreasonable to expect that they'll all receive the same service.

To continue your analogy, you take your car into the shop for an oil change, and pay for the oil change. Your oil gets changed, and you leave.

You friend takes his car into the shop for an oil change, and pays the same amount of money you did, to the same shop. They change his oil, replace his wiper blades, rotate his tires, and check the other fluids in the car.

Wouldn't you wonder why he got a better level of service than you did?

Now, mind you, I'm not angry. I'm getting the regular edition goggles myself, so it isn't as if I'm upset that someone's getting goggles that shouldn't. But I don't think there's anything unreasonable with some people wondering why another group of people are getting something above and beyond what they paid for, when both groups paid equally.

Kashemia · **09-23-2010, 04:14 AM**

I see your point, Chveya, and I agree in some ways.
I still think my ice cream example is a bit more accurate than the car one though, seeing as I said, I think it's a mistake that they got the goggles.

In your car example, the auto shop desides to give your friend more service for the same money, which I agree you could be upset about. But in the case of the goggles, it seems more random, and not like an active choice from SE I think.
I can totally understand that people are disappointed about it, but I'm not upset with either the Aussies or SE for it, and it wouldn't surprise me if they take the goggles away from them again Big Grin

Edit: Just on the note, I don't really feel strongly either way, I'm just having fun with the examples right now Tongue

Emaraya · **09-23-2010, 09:47 AM**

Apart of everything did anyone really check the prices in Australia and compared it to other parts of the world...

We europeans pay 55 and 41 Euros and you pay 75 or 50 Dollar right? So the index is 1,33 Dollar per Euro. Real price should have been:

54,50 Dollar for SE and 73 Dollar for CE... ok that fits - your CE is a bit more expensive and your SE a lot more cheap than ours. But what about Australia?

79 australian Dollars and 109 australian Dollars. I do not know the trading course, but paying that amount whithout a weak currency is practically a robbery. So it might be nothing less then buying both without buying both by accident. Give them the damn keys! It was expensive anyway.

Asyria · **09-23-2010, 11:28 AM**

Speaking of fairness isn't it unfair to pay extra for "exclusive" making of content and find out it all has been released on YouTube by the company itself (not a leak, the company!) before?
It's not exclusive at all.
I paid for exclusive.
If not for having a full 8 days to play before the regular, I'd wish I had gone with regular. The goggles alone made me hesitate so much. Sad

Noelle · **09-23-2010, 12:08 PM**

Asyria Wrote:Speaking of fairness isn't it unfair to pay extra for "exclusive" making of content and find out it all has been released on YouTube by the company itself (not a leak, the company!) before?
It's not exclusive at all.
I paid for exclusive.
If not for having a full 8 days to play before the regular, I'd wish I had gone with regular. The goggles alone made me hesitate so much.

Agreed.

The onion helm is a useless piece of trash IMO.
Reduces death cooldown? big deal, it lasts like 3 minutes anyway.
Compared to the goggles of skillleveling?
"regular" edition players are no doubt going to come in, skull up, and keep going.
The extra 8 days seems incredibly pointless now I'm up and running.

And looking back, I am filled with nothing but regret.

Veedo · **09-23-2010, 12:29 PM**

So far, due to my XI not linking properly (partially my fault, partially them not getting back to me in time on the account support), I've already missed out on the first two days of the extra time and looks like I'll be missing the next. It's starting to feel like I may as well wait until the 30th to get started. If that's the case I'll have all the bonus items anyways. XD;

...

;_;

Kashemia · **09-23-2010, 12:37 PM**

Emaraya Wrote:Apart of everything did anyone really check the prices in Australia and compared it to other parts of the world...

We europeans pay 55 and 41 Euros and you pay 75 or 50 Dollar right? So the index is 1,33 Dollar per Euro. Real price should have been:

54,50 Euro for SE and 73 Euro for CE... ok that fits - your CE is a bit cheaper and your SE a bit more expensive than ours, too. But what about Australia?

79 australian Dollars and 109 australian Dollars. I do not know the trading course, but paying that amount whithout a weak currency is practically a robbery. So it might be nothing less then buying both without buying both by accident. Give them the damn keys! It was expensive anyway.

Good point.
I actually payed 700 DKK for mine, 125 US dollars. The Australians pay around 69 US dollars for theirs. Yup, Denmark sucks when it comes to prices of games.

Noelle · **09-23-2010, 12:39 PM**

Veedo Wrote:So far, due to my XI not linking properly (partially my fault, partially them not getting back to me in time on the account support), I've already missed out on the first two days of the extra time and looks like I'll be missing the next. It's starting to feel like I may as well wait until the 30th to get started. If that's the case I'll have all the bonus items anyways. XD;

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;_;

Ayaya~
-Pats-

Wouldn't you have to wait until the 30th anyway?
Since you need to enter the goggles code before you make your character?

I can sympathise with your pain, I'm waiting on a CPU, trying to cope with 8 FPS is just unplayable.
And with the sandstorm last night it was down to 3 ;_;

Veedo · **09-23-2010, 12:48 PM**

I do. I've actually bought a second character slot to make an alt so my eight days aren't wasted. I'm a grind-fiend anyway, so I'll make up for this weeks loss. Especially now I figured a potential way around Fatigue System so I can recharge and get back in action. ;D

Hugs for low framerates! D: Ã¢Â™Â¥

Emaraya · **09-23-2010, 01:17 PM**

Kashemia Wrote:Good point.
I actually payed 700 DKK for mine, 125 US dollars. The Australians pay around 69 US dollars for theirs. Yup, Denmark sucks when it comes to prices of games.

You are wrong. The course is nearly 1:1 for the US to the Austrian Dollar. It is 1:1,05 and makes 109 Dollar just 104,11 in US Dollar. Therefore they pay a lot more. But you are right! You pay 131,50 Australian Dollar in comparison with 700 DKK... well maybe reduced by 6% - your tax bonus from my view - it still is 99 US Dollar from the German view. So you are way above our prices by 25%...

We get paid back though. Our medics are far too expensive.

Kashemia · **09-23-2010, 01:25 PM**

Emaraya Wrote:You are wrong. The course is nearly 1:1 for the US to the Austrian Dollar. It is 1:1,05 and makes 109 Dollar just 104,11 in US Dollar. Therefore they pay a lot more. But you are right! You pay 131,50 Australian Dollar in comparison with 700 DKK... well maybe reduced by 6% - your tax bonus from my view - it still is 99 US Dollar from the German view. So you are way above our prices by 25%...

We get paid back though. Our medics are far too expensive.

Ah, sorry, I somehow read the SE price as the CE one <.< You're right, the AU is pretty close to my price then. And yeah, I know a lot of it is taxes, but still, that was the amount of money I had to get out of my account to get it Wink

Xena · **09-23-2010, 01:42 PM**

For the Onion Helm you have to put in the code "Before" you make your character right....? If so then Im going to be screwed. I'll have to remake my character. *sigh*

Kashemia · **09-23-2010, 01:47 PM**

Xena Wrote:For the Onion Helm you have to put in the code "Before" you make your character right....? If so then Im going to be screwed. I'll have to remake my character. *sigh*

Yeah, I think so. I'm debating with myself if I wanna remake Seraj at the moment, to get her the helmet. I haven't really done anything yet, so it's not like I'll be losing any progress... But at the same time, I'm not sure I'll ever actually use the helmet... It so doesn't fit her <.<

Veedo · **09-23-2010, 01:49 PM**

The joy of the helmet is you only need it for 1m30s after reviving from death since that's how long the Death Penalty is with it equipped. It's the only time I'll use it for Vale.. Unless I get the whooooole outfit for him to woo the ladies with.

Xena · **09-23-2010, 01:55 PM**

Ive only gotten bot to rank 8, archer rank 7 so i dont think ill be lossing much if i remake. I dont like how it looks at all. Looks like i cam out of a clown school. But It would be nice to have just to reduce the KO time when I die. So when i die i can just slap it on my head and then rip it off really quick after KO is gone. hehe Moogle

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