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RE: A touchy subject - Asyria - 07-16-2013
Forget all the arguments.
Balmung and Gilgamesh are both gonna rock because we all want them both to.
Yes Balmung might have more people (at launch), but Gil is gonna have more enthusiasm (because people not only want a fresh start but also a great fresh start).
So it's really just a choice between established awesome and fresh awesome.
RE: A touchy subject - Alexandr Nocturne - 07-16-2013
(07-16-2013, 07:38 PM)Asyria Wrote: Forget all the arguments.
Balmung and Gilgamesh are both gonna rock because we all want them both to.
Yes Balmung might have more people (at launch), but Gil is gonna have more enthusiasm (because people not only want a fresh start but also a great fresh start).
So it's really just a choice between established awesome and fresh awesome.
This x 100. Keep in mind that while Balmung will have the 1.0 legacy characters, Gilgamesh may be drawing in vet RPers from other games. I know a lot of current Guild Wars 2 players going to Gilgamesh, including a decent amount of our Free Company.
RE: A touchy subject - Isilme - 07-16-2013
I am Legacy, and see my recent post if you're curious as to how I feel about the Legacy community. Legacy players aren't just rpers, and they're not just rpers who played the old version of this game. They are rpers who stuck together and stuck it out through the WORST mainline Final Fantasy game in the franchise.
I wish I was exaggerating, but as bad as your favorite FF chewtoy is, it was at least PLAYABLE, had CONTENT, and had a STORY. 1.0 was very, very grim at launch.
These are people who are good enough that they all stayed together, solely to stay with each other. Even the ones who disagree, and argue with each other, chose to stick with the community. I think that speaks volumes.
Now, that being said, that's EXACTLY why I can understand people wanting to go to Gilgamesh too. Because there is a certain fun in starting out together, struggling through the hardships, and having to build things from scratch. You'll definitely have an easier time of it, not having to contend with an utterly broken game.
Basically... I don't think there is a wrong choice here. Creating on both servers isn't a bad idea. There's sure to be a big rp event shortly after launch, and that should give you a good idea of which community suits you best.
RE: A touchy subject - ArmachiA - 07-17-2013
(07-16-2013, 03:35 PM)Zarek Wrote: Coming from games like WoW, GW2, and TERA....like I said, surprising is really the only word for it. Anyone who has spent some time in those RP communities can likely attest to people being entrenched and not always overly welcoming to anyone who didn't want to get with the 'established' program and fall in line or just anyone who was new.
To jump in on this, I have to say TERA was the worst, most exclusionary RP community I have EVER EVER come across. We started the game a few months after it launched, there weren't many of us willing to try it, but we had a stable guild of ten or so people. Trying to get ANYONE in the established community to RP with us wa like trying to pull teeth. It was a shame too, I met a really nice RPer in the field who told me where the Tavern RP was and then walked me to it and I was all "Wow, what a great start!"
NOPE.
Most of the time, if you spoke, even if you spoke DIRECTLY TO THEM, they would flat out ignore you in favor of someone they knew already. For real.
If FFXIV's Balmung server is even 10percent better than Celestial Hills than this is a good place to be. Holy cow, it was bad.
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As an aside I'm considering rolling an alt on Gilgamesh, but would any FC have me knowing it was an alt and that I have a guild of my own to run so I wouldn't be on like alllll the time? [But I would be on, as I don't work so I got time
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RE: A touchy subject - FreelanceWizard - 07-17-2013
(07-17-2013, 12:00 AM)ArmachiA Wrote: Most of the time, if you spoke, even if you spoke DIRECTLY TO THEM, they would flat out ignore you in favor of someone they knew already. For real.
I'm reminded of Moon Guard, where that was basically how it was done. If you were in with the OOC channel, you could get RP easily; if you weren't, you were simply ignored. Silvermoon City was probably the worst, where simply being a particular class (say, Paladin) and not being in the right guild was enough to block you from RP.
You can always count on me to RP with you, though. Or with anyone. Even if you interrupt an IC conversation. Even if it's off to the side. Even if it's in the middle of a forest and there's beastmen around. You may not necessarily like the IC reaction, but I'll at least react if you give me a moment.
Based on what I've seen, I expect most if not all RPers on both Balmung and Gilgamesh will be the same way.
RE: A touchy subject - Martiallais - 07-17-2013
(07-17-2013, 12:00 AM)ArmachiA Wrote:(07-16-2013, 03:35 PM)Zarek Wrote: Coming from games like WoW, GW2, and TERA....like I said, surprising is really the only word for it. Anyone who has spent some time in those RP communities can likely attest to people being entrenched and not always overly welcoming to anyone who didn't want to get with the 'established' program and fall in line or just anyone who was new.
To jump in on this, I have to say TERA was the worst, most exclusionary RP community I have EVER EVER come across. *snip*
For what it's worth, I think I got lucky with this (TERA) as I found a great, larger guild (despite having some prior bad experiences with them that left a 'Never again' taste in my mouth). They were open and generally funloving & easy to get along with.
I wasn't quite as lucky in the other games.
RE: A touchy subject - ArmachiA - 07-17-2013
(07-17-2013, 12:21 AM)FreelanceWizard Wrote: You can always count on me to RP with you, though. Or with anyone. Even if you interrupt an IC conversation. Even if it's off to the side. Even if it's in the middle of a forest and there's beastmen around. You may not necessarily like the IC reaction, but I'll at least react if you give me a moment.
I'm quite looking forward to seeing you around Balmung, actually. You are one of my favorite people on the site
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