Axl Wrote:I am tired of mithra (or miqo'te in this case) that act overly cutesie and innocent, and adopt some guy as her BIIIIIIIIIIG BROOOOOOOOOOOTHER ^___^ ^___^ >.< >.< >///////////< God I hate them.

Vardia Wrote:True enough, I suppose. I'm just glad my perception of "good" characters have evolved since I was 13. Dear god the horrible characters I concocted at that age.. I'll try my best with the presentation and (hopefully) she won't turn out bad.XD

Xaefan Wrote:Just raging here, so if it's some multi-posting stuff, forgive me.

People who can't make an original concept.

People who drag their characters through every multiverse, and pretend it's the same person, with the same powers.

People who play a character as if they looked up tsundere, or some other cliche tv-show/anime/manga/movied/etc. ideal and look at it -every- -time- their character has to think about which shoe goes on which foot.

People who are one race, but raised by another. (It's fine in doses, but "ORIGINAL IDEA DO NOT STEAL", guys.)

Dark/Depressing/Completely emo characters with pasts that are filled with parental abuse/parental death. We dig it, it was cool when we were 14 (Heck, I did it too, but at least I -tried- to pretend like my character didn't really care about it, until it was good for SOMEONE ELSE'S PLOT AND NOT MY OWN DRAMA WHORING.)

Drama whores.

Replying TO EVERYTHING. "I agree" SCREW YOU, NO YOU DON'T, KNOW YOUR ROLE, OTHERWISE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT ANYWAY. (Being silly.)

Elves who are actually small, humans who are actually tall, tarutaru/lalafell who're actually psychotic monsters, mithra/mi'qote who are actually manthra/lesbians, Galka who are old and wise and OMGWTF I HAVE DESCENDED FROM SUN TSUNG VON HITLER.

Also:

Characters who speak in tongue outside of regular chat. Accents are cool, overused of course, but cool. But, WE DON'T SPEAK FRENCH IN THE WORLD OF FINAL FANTASY. (This coming from me, who considers "Oui?" and "Non" a piece of the francais/cajun accent.)

DAISHI Wrote:

Xaefan Wrote:Just raging here, so if it's some multi-posting stuff, forgive me.

People who can't make an original concept.

People who drag their characters through every multiverse, and pretend it's the same person, with the same powers.

People who play a character as if they looked up tsundere, or some other cliche tv-show/anime/manga/movied/etc. ideal and look at it -every- -time- their character has to think about which shoe goes on which foot.

People who are one race, but raised by another. (It's fine in doses, but "ORIGINAL IDEA DO NOT STEAL", guys.)

Dark/Depressing/Completely emo characters with pasts that are filled with parental abuse/parental death. We dig it, it was cool when we were 14 (Heck, I did it too, but at least I -tried- to pretend like my character didn't really care about it, until it was good for SOMEONE ELSE'S PLOT AND NOT MY OWN DRAMA WHORING.)

Drama whores.

Replying TO EVERYTHING. "I agree" SCREW YOU, NO YOU DON'T, KNOW YOUR ROLE, OTHERWISE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT ANYWAY. (Being silly.)

Elves who are actually small, humans who are actually tall, tarutaru/lalafell who're actually psychotic monsters, mithra/mi'qote who are actually manthra/lesbians, Galka who are old and wise and OMGWTF I HAVE DESCENDED FROM SUN TSUNG VON HITLER.

Also:

Characters who speak in tongue outside of regular chat. Accents are cool, overused of course, but cool. But, WE DON'T SPEAK FRENCH IN THE WORLD OF FINAL FANTASY. (This coming from me, who considers "Oui?" and "Non" a piece of the francais/cajun accent.)

There's french in the very naming of locations in the Elven kingdom.

Actually more to the point... We don't speak English there either. English is simply the most widely accepted 'translation' of whatever language is being used in Vanadiel because we're (mostly) Americans. In Germany it's a different case and in Japan it's a different case. If somebody uses French words it's no more absurd that pretending, in game, everyone is speaking English.

Xaefan Wrote:

DAISHI Wrote:

Xaefan Wrote:Just raging here, so if it's some multi-posting stuff, forgive me.

People who can't make an original concept.

People who drag their characters through every multiverse, and pretend it's the same person, with the same powers.

People who play a character as if they looked up tsundere, or some other cliche tv-show/anime/manga/movied/etc. ideal and look at it -every- -time- their character has to think about which shoe goes on which foot.

People who are one race, but raised by another. (It's fine in doses, but "ORIGINAL IDEA DO NOT STEAL", guys.)

Dark/Depressing/Completely emo characters with pasts that are filled with parental abuse/parental death. We dig it, it was cool when we were 14 (Heck, I did it too, but at least I -tried- to pretend like my character didn't really care about it, until it was good for SOMEONE ELSE'S PLOT AND NOT MY OWN DRAMA WHORING.)

Drama whores.

Replying TO EVERYTHING. "I agree" SCREW YOU, NO YOU DON'T, KNOW YOUR ROLE, OTHERWISE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT ANYWAY. (Being silly.)

Elves who are actually small, humans who are actually tall, tarutaru/lalafell who're actually psychotic monsters, mithra/mi'qote who are actually manthra/lesbians, Galka who are old and wise and OMGWTF I HAVE DESCENDED FROM SUN TSUNG VON HITLER.

Also:

Characters who speak in tongue outside of regular chat. Accents are cool, overused of course, but cool. But, WE DON'T SPEAK FRENCH IN THE WORLD OF FINAL FANTASY. (This coming from me, who considers "Oui?" and "Non" a piece of the francais/cajun accent.)

There's french in the very naming of locations in the Elven kingdom.

Actually more to the point... We don't speak English there either. English is simply the most widely accepted 'translation' of whatever language is being used in Vanadiel because we're (mostly) Americans. In Germany it's a different case and in Japan it's a different case. If somebody uses French words it's no more absurd that pretending, in game, everyone is speaking English.

Well of course, but that's just my example. When you play a game that has established languages, and someone suddenly starts going "OUI OUI BAGGUETE DU FROMAGE?!" don't you want to slap them?

Vardia Wrote:

Axl Wrote:I am tired of mithra (or miqo'te in this case) that act overly cutesie and innocent, and adopt some guy as her BIIIIIIIIIIG BROOOOOOOOOOOTHER ^___^ ^___^ >.< >.< >///////////< God I hate them.

D: My miqo'te is going to be innocent and naive, at least until her skewed view on the world is squished by the truth. I hope that isn't cliche, I mean she won't be going around giving hugs and adopt some guy as her brother or anything.

I think the "Hai desu ne onii-chan!" squeaky cutsie character is pretty darn obnoxious too, but now I feel cliche. /cry

sassaroth Wrote:I am not sure if this is cliche or not but my back ground goes something like this.

My character was a simple fisherman in a small village, good family, good parents, nothing wrong really.

One day he gets struck by lightening and wakes up sorta hurt. People in the village say he just didn't seem to be the same person. He rebels and starts to be mischievous, small petty things, small crimes. Mostly he was reacting to the village because he could not understand what they mean by his change. He just felt more alive and wanted to express it.

several years later, in a thunder storm he was almost struck again. He was able to get out of the way of the bolt just by chance. To him thought it was a sign to "move his feet." So he wished mom and dad best of luck, promise to send back gil and took to the road.

He was young, got into some trouble, arrested a few times but really did want to be good. He just didn't want to be bored.
Years later he finds himself in Ul'dah paying off some court fees and starting a new life of adventuring where his energetic ways might earn him some cash, and possibly help him understand what his role in life really is.

No god mode
no emo, had a good life, parents are assumed to be alive
not a dark past, just checkered and getting over it. No dark secrets.
not a master thief, just a terrible thug. Never been good at anything because he never had to be.

I want him to be mortal with a slightly imperfect past. It might not be epic, but ir does give a comfortable feel to it.
I am trying to reflect less on his past, and more on his interactions. There is a past, but its a foot note instead of the whole. His real life begins in-game.