I didn't mean to imply that I thought you meant anything you said objectively, either. I know what you were getting at, I was just tossing my two cents out there on that. 
The effort/popularity thing aside, I personally believe that the gothic subculture doesn't have as large of a following in the present day. That is, not when it comes to teens. Gothic culture (as we know it in 2013), is no longer what it was thirty, twenty, or even ten years ago. From my experience, I've seen less and less teens as traditional goths in the current day. (They're still around, of course. Just drastically less in number that the amount seen in the early 90s.) In the past decade, not necessarily otaku culture in particular, but geek culture seems to have taken on a stronger presence in the current day than goth culture has. Mind you, I'm still only talking about teens as the audience here.
However, I can only speak from what I've witnessed. Perhaps it's different in certain parts of America, or in different parts of the world. Maybe there is a stronger following than I know of and I simply haven't heard of it yet. *shrugs*
Back to the flavor of the player base thing, there is a correlation between a high number of teens and stupidity, but neither causes the other. Perhaps we'll be lucky and if there is a strong teen demographic for the WoD MMO, they'll mostly be mature ones? Who knows.
The effort/popularity thing aside, I personally believe that the gothic subculture doesn't have as large of a following in the present day. That is, not when it comes to teens. Gothic culture (as we know it in 2013), is no longer what it was thirty, twenty, or even ten years ago. From my experience, I've seen less and less teens as traditional goths in the current day. (They're still around, of course. Just drastically less in number that the amount seen in the early 90s.) In the past decade, not necessarily otaku culture in particular, but geek culture seems to have taken on a stronger presence in the current day than goth culture has. Mind you, I'm still only talking about teens as the audience here.
However, I can only speak from what I've witnessed. Perhaps it's different in certain parts of America, or in different parts of the world. Maybe there is a stronger following than I know of and I simply haven't heard of it yet. *shrugs*
Back to the flavor of the player base thing, there is a correlation between a high number of teens and stupidity, but neither causes the other. Perhaps we'll be lucky and if there is a strong teen demographic for the WoD MMO, they'll mostly be mature ones? Who knows.
