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(08-10-2013, 04:11 PM)Twinflame Wrote:(08-10-2013, 03:44 PM)Reppu Wrote: And, flatly speaking? If you really think that SquareEnix is 100% discriminative, then by all means. However, truly discriminative individuals do not come out and say 'We are looking into it'.
Of course they do. This is absolutely what your basic every-day casual oppression sounds like. It is polite and calm because it is normal, and the person delivering it does not think they are being discriminatory. Nobody thinks Yoshi is going out of his way to be a jerk or anything. It is what he's doing, though.
(08-10-2013, 03:37 PM)Reppu Wrote: Quit with the power words like 'foolish'. You're hurting your cause every time you use strong words against your own fellows. We do not have to agree on the extent of things, but we're fighting for the same thing.
'Foolish' isn't a 'power word'. 'Toxic' and 'Unreasonable' are power words. Those ones are on you. You love power words.
(08-10-2013, 03:59 PM)Reppu Wrote: What is being asked is to put trust in Yoshida to deliver a favorable outcome. What is being asked is to understand the cultural difference, but not accept it. It is to show tolerance, but not tolerance to intolerance.
This is extremely misrepresentation. For one, no, I will in no way trust Yoshida. He is a business man out to get money. I don't think he's evil or a jerk or anything. I like him and what he does. I'm not going to trust him to not oppress, though, because he's already done so. I understand his culture and flatly deny it. I do not tolerate intolerance, nor will I tolerate the aspects of a foreign culture that cause intolerance. What, then, should I be tolerating in this situation? Yoshida's passive discrimination? To that I say: no.
And you are well within your rights to have that stance, even if I do not agree with all of it.
As for my use of power words? Power words are warranted when they are applicable. There have been toxic words used, by very few people, and unreasonable stances have been used, same as before.
To deny the use of power words, even when warranted? Is a denial of an attempt to bring light to what is truly NOT needed in this situation. But, again, this is all opinions. You have the opinion that I am using them, and those I am saying are using them, are not.
That is fine. I believe you are wrong that I am the only individual in this case to use them, but your opinion is fine to have.
And, really, what's the point of bickering the finer details? Let's just ignore our individual peeves with each other and just strike at the issue at hand, which is what we should be doing in the first place. Again, I am not here with the intent to make enemies, especially with people who should be brothers, sisters, and everything in-between in arms.
We have different points on how far we want to take things. Many of us feel we should not take it too far due to the empathy we've been shown. Many also feel that this empathy is discrimination still, if not 'passively'.
So, what do we do? Do we fight harder? Do we sit back and see how the hand we're dealt, while staying in the game? Is there a medium we can take?
I have no desire to fight with anyone in Unity in this. Any individuals from Unity that I feel I cannot speak with, I am flatly ignoring. And that is only one individual. Naunet is admirable, and you... well, we disagree on what actually counts as 'proving a case', but beyond that you present yourself well.