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RE: Can you RP evil Dark Knight and have it lore friendly? - Warren Castille - 09-29-2015

Considering the DRK story quests completely drop that angle after lv50, it's reasonable to assume that establishing dominance over the shadow once is enough to keep it in check.

Edit: To elaborate a little bit more on that, as you're growing in power the Darkside entity is also growing in power. You could draw from that that once you hit a certain threshold you're either controlling it or its controlling you. If you can't handle or manage those powers, you succumb to the bad parts. If you can, you tap into the advanced powers.


RE: Can you RP evil Dark Knight and have it lore friendly? - Leanne - 09-29-2015

(09-29-2015, 07:25 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Considering the DRK story quests completely drop that angle after lv50, it's reasonable to assume that establishing dominance over the shadow once is enough to keep it in check.

Edit: To elaborate a little bit more on that, as you're growing in power the Darkside entity is also growing in power. You could draw from that that once you hit a certain threshold you're either controlling it or its controlling you. If you can't handle or manage those powers, you succumb to the bad parts. If you can, you tap into the advanced powers.

It is just theory, but I'd say that happens because...

A. Yoshi-P lost interest in using more darkside shenanigans.

B. You are the WoL. Which is like being an embodied 42.

From what your darkside said, they will always be there at the corner of your mind, ready to take reins if you decide to end with your "fallacy" of being a hero. I take that is, yes, the darkside is subdued for now, until for some reason you show a glimpse of weakness that he will use to persuade/tempt/force its weight.

I admittedly prefer this interpretation just because of the extra flavor that adds to being a DRK. You will be forever having keep yourself on your toes xP


RE: Can you RP evil Dark Knight and have it lore friendly? - Warren Castille - 09-29-2015

(09-29-2015, 08:08 PM)Leanne Wrote:
(09-29-2015, 07:25 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Considering the DRK story quests completely drop that angle after lv50, it's reasonable to assume that establishing dominance over the shadow once is enough to keep it in check.

Edit: To elaborate a little bit more on that, as you're growing in power the Darkside entity is also growing in power. You could draw from that that once you hit a certain threshold you're either controlling it or its controlling you. If you can't handle or manage those powers, you succumb to the bad parts. If you can, you tap into the advanced powers.

It is just theory, but I'd say that happens because...

A. Yoshi-P lost interest in using more darkside shenanigans.

B. You are the WoL. Which is like being an embodied 42.

From what your darkside said, they will always be there at the corner of your mind, ready to take reins if you decide to end with your "fallacy" of being a hero. I take that is, yes, the darkside is subdued for now, until for some reason you show a glimpse of weakness that he will use to persuade/tempt/force its weight.

I admittedly prefer this interpretation just because of the extra flavor that adds to being a DRK. You will be forever having keep yourself on your toes xP

Correction: The Warrior of Light's Dark Side said those things. We can't know how any other Dark Knight handles it. That's why I said it's not an unreasonable leap of consideration.


RE: Can you RP evil Dark Knight and have it lore friendly? - Leanne - 09-29-2015

Quote:Correction: The Warrior of Light's Dark Side said those things. We can't know how any other Dark Knight handles it. That's why I said it's not an unreasonable leap of consideration.

I think that's the modus operandi of all darksides (weird thing to say.) Be their reasons or behavior different. The temptation to succumb to your darker desires. They'd be your selfishness personified. And we all being humans(or race of your choice in FF), the desire to serve yourself rather than others is always there. Seems fitting to me that likewise, your dark side will be there, waiting for a slip, a weakness to creep into.

Which brings the whole idea of an evil dark knight into question, at least to me, that is. If evil, only because DRK can be quite extreme in their methods of dealing justice. Then again, that is my interpretation.


RE: Can you RP evil Dark Knight and have it lore friendly? - Smagon - 09-29-2015

(09-29-2015, 08:17 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(09-29-2015, 08:08 PM)Leanne Wrote:
(09-29-2015, 07:25 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Considering the DRK story quests completely drop that angle after lv50, it's reasonable to assume that establishing dominance over the shadow once is enough to keep it in check.

Edit: To elaborate a little bit more on that, as you're growing in power the Darkside entity is also growing in power. You could draw from that that once you hit a certain threshold you're either controlling it or its controlling you. If you can't handle or manage those powers, you succumb to the bad parts. If you can, you tap into the advanced powers.

It is just theory, but I'd say that happens because...

A. Yoshi-P lost interest in using more darkside shenanigans.

B. You are the WoL. Which is like being an embodied 42.

From what your darkside said, they will always be there at the corner of your mind, ready to take reins if you decide to end with your "fallacy" of being a hero. I take that is, yes, the darkside is subdued for now, until for some reason you show a glimpse of weakness that he will use to persuade/tempt/force its weight.

I admittedly prefer this interpretation just because of the extra flavor that adds to being a DRK. You will be forever having keep yourself on your toes xP

Correction: The Warrior of Light's Dark Side said those things. We can't know how any other Dark Knight handles it. That's why I said it's not an unreasonable leap of consideration.

Exactly. It makes me wonder how a less heroic person who never tried to play the hero go would deal with that. Like what would happen if someone who was violent from the start developed a darkside? Would a person like that be instantly consumed or would they not even develop a darkside due to the lack of internal conflict?

I have so many questions about dark knights and their abilities and they always seem to get different answers every time I ask.


RE: Can you RP evil Dark Knight and have it lore friendly? - Warren Castille - 09-29-2015

It's roleplay: Whatever you want to happen, happens.


RE: Can you RP evil Dark Knight and have it lore friendly? - Sig - 09-30-2015

(09-29-2015, 08:37 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: It's roleplay: Whatever you want to happen, happens.

^ This.  Dark knight lore is so vague that there are numerous plausible angles you could take without destroying lore.  An evil dark knight is one of those angles.


RE: Can you RP evil Dark Knight and have it lore friendly? - SicketySix - 09-30-2015

Thanks for all the replies and opinions fellows.
I think I found something that should work out pretty good without the need to be evil.

Thanks!