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Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - just Vic - 01-01-2015
Perhaps this has been answered in the past and if so I´d be thankful if someone could point me in the right direction / delete this threadÂ
Been wondering for a while if children from 2 different races (Miqo´te + Hyur for example) are possible and also if it can happen between clans (Seeker of the Sun + Keeper of the Moon) as well.
I know that there are no "hybrids" since there are none in the game so far, but I´d like to know if something like this was possible and if there were some sort of "dominance" for the race / clan of the resulting offspring
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - ArmachiA - 01-01-2015
Word of God says it's possible, though I don't have a link on hand
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - Elros - 01-01-2015
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/32685-Questions-related-to-Lore?p=490835&viewfull=1#post490835
Above post from the dev team says that it is possible and there actually is one sunseeker/moonkeeper hybrid in game though I forgot what her name was
On a personal note, my character is mixed ( Miqo/Hyur) but I play him as growing up Midlander culturally; though he is a bit of a pariah because of his mixed ancestry
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - Faye - 01-01-2015
Yes, the devs confirmed crossbreeds, though they don't really explain the details of it. We also don't know for sure if we see any in game, aside from a couple Seeker and Keeper crossbreed NPC's.
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - Seriphyn - 01-02-2015
Though it's not mentioned, I always imagined that even though crossbreeding is possible, it may not be easy. Low fertility rates, high chances of stillbirth, and miscarriage etc.
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - Knight Kat - 01-02-2015
(01-01-2015, 11:49 PM)Elros Wrote: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/32685-Questions-related-to-Lore?p=490835&viewfull=1#post490835
Above post from the dev team says that it is possible and there actually is one sunseeker/moonkeeper hybrid in game though I forgot what her name was
On a personal note, my character is mixed ( Miqo/Hyur) but I play him as growing up Midlander culturally; though he is a bit of a pariah because of his mixed ancestry
It should also be noted from the info in that very same link that it says it is possible, but very rare.
I think cross-clan is probably more common. There are quite a few cross-clan Miqo'te NPCs in the game. And I see no reason why Highland Hyur and Midland Hyur can't mix. Same goes for the others.
However, the cross-race (cross-species) combination seems a lot less common. I have seen -no- cross-race NPCs in the game.
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - just Vic - 01-02-2015
Thanks everyone for the info, seems that indeed it is possible but quite rare, and for the clans I had figured that usually the child would inherit the clan traits of only one of the parents, since that would also explain why there are so many NPCs with very definite traits.
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - Elros - 01-02-2015
(01-02-2015, 12:49 AM)just Vic Wrote: Thanks everyone for the info, seems that indeed it is possible but quite rare, and for the clans I had figured that usually the child would inherit the clan traits of only one of the parents, since that would also explain why there are so many NPCs with very definite traits.
Or it could just be the models that are available, I believe there was a dev post waaaaaaaaaaaay back saying they wanted to incorporate cross clan/cross race (I can't remember which) options for the character creator but i believe the idea was scrapped as they were working on other things
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - Elros - 01-02-2015
(01-02-2015, 12:59 AM)Elros Wrote:(01-02-2015, 12:49 AM)just Vic Wrote: Thanks everyone for the info, seems that indeed it is possible but quite rare, and for the clans I had figured that usually the child would inherit the clan traits of only one of the parents, since that would also explain why there are so many NPCs with very definite traits.
Or it could just be the models that are available, I believe there was a dev post waaaaaaaaaaaay back saying they wanted to incorporate cross clan/cross race (I can't remember which) options for the character creator but i believe the idea was scrap as they were working on other things
Found the post http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/61222-F-lhaminn/page3 (scroll down a bit)
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - Sounsyy - 01-02-2015
Race and Clan mixing are a canon thing in lore. Minfilia's foster mom, F'lhaminn, is a confirmed mixed Keeper/Seeker.
Race Mixing | Clan Mixing
Although there are currently no mixed raced individuals in XIV, during the Las Vegas Lore Panel, Fernehalwes confirmed that in 3.0 mixed raced individuals will be introduced and we will get to see how they are treated in Eorzean society. (He hinted that it is not very well received, as the Races all really hate each other.)
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - Elros - 01-02-2015
On a final note while I do believe said character would be mixed in appearance, I would treat what traits are dominant just like IRL; darker hair is dominant over lighter, brown eyes over blue eyes etc etc (there are exceptions of course)
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - Elros - 01-02-2015
(01-02-2015, 01:05 AM)Sounsyy Wrote: Race and Clan mixing are a canon thing in lore. Minfilia's foster mom, F'lhaminn, is a confirmed mixed Keeper/Seeker.
Race Mixing | Clan Mixing
Although there are currently no mixed raced individuals in XIV, during the Las Vegas Lore Panel, Fernehalwes confirmed that in 3.0 mixed raced individuals will be introduced and we will get to see how they are treated in Eorzean society. (He hinted that it is not very well received, as the Races all really hate each other.)
Yay for being a pariah!
and yay for more lore on racial relations
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - Mae - 01-02-2015
Cross-clan should be viable -- it's pretty much the same thing as, say, a Russian and a Jamaican (pulling nationalities out of a hat here) getting together and having a child. Same species, just from different regions and lifestyles.
Cross-race, again, it's said to be possible but rare. Something to consider with the concept is the strain a mother might go through with a cross-race baby. If the sire is bigger or has a vastly different body configuration, there's going to be a risk of problems. This problem DOES exist in the real world between humans at times (a woman from a family/bloodline that's typically petite getting pregnant by a man who's family/bloodline tends towards producing 6'6" football players), but it's better illustrated with designer dogs/dogs that got loose.
To highlight an extreme case, a Lala would have a VERY hard time carrying a baby that was fathered by a Roegy. Totally disregarding how the Lala didn't get split in half while getting pregnant, the resulting baby would be too big for the Lala to carry without severe complications. Actual birthing would likely require a cecearan to be performed. In all likelihood, Lala with anything else would be a Bad Idea in general. Even Roegy to Hyur and Elezen to Miqo'te would probably run risks.
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - Shoshopu - 01-02-2015
re: cross-race offspring and size differences
My personal headcanon thus far is that it works like in the Elder Scrolls or Pokemon, where the offspring are the same species/race as the mother and inherit some minor traits from the father. Roegadyn male + lalafell female is like this game's Wailord + Surskitty, really.
RE: Cross-species / Cross clans offspring - Blue - 01-02-2015
While genetically possible, I think the major halt to cross-clan offspring among the Miqo'te is their huge difference in culture. Sure, there are individuals who are exceptions and stray from their clan's traditions (and a large % of roleplayers like to be that "special exception", I've found), but commonly, Seekers of the Sun are a patriarchal, tribal culture, while Keepers of the Moon are matriarchal and live in small families. The lore also says that both clans have an insular mentality and tend to live among their own kin rather, trying to avoid the other races.
But to go back to the inter-clan mating, I think a woman coming from a matriarchal structure and a male from a patriarchal one would be in heavy conflict, as both consider themselves the "leader" of the family. The same also goes if they were of opposite genders.
Seeker Female: Hey love, my sister also wants a child. I'm gonna call her over to mate with ya.
*the Keeper male flees*
Seeker Male 1: Hey, I'll be back in a hour or two, okay? Another female in my tribe wants a child and I'm their Nuhn.
*the Keeper female begins to seek ways to break Eternal Bond*
Seeker Male 2: Okay, now that I have you, I think I am officially no longer a Tia. We'll need to find more females.
*the second Keeper female seeks the first Keeper female to know how to break Eternal Bond*
So yeah... Hybrids are possible, but likely very rare because it's rare to find parents not influenced by their clan's mentality.
But again, you'll find that most of the RPers out there like to be "the rare case". So go on ahead.