So I been doing a lot of reading about Miqo'te and Lalafell lore wise and such and so far out of all the races they interest me the most in terms of lore and overall look. My question is really is there really that much hate for these races? Rp wise I been developing a backstory for a Male Miqo'te Seeker, (whos parents are actually a seeker and a keeper) and started work on a Male Lalafell but after reading all the negative stuff its kind of discouraged me from playing them and roleplaying with them. Don't get me wrong I can handle a few unruly people but if the grief is so wide spread and can't get a good quality rp just because of my chosen race to play I might as well just go hyur and be done with it. Keep in mind I usually play more serious roles (not dark) but my characters are not something to take as a joke because I literally spend hours on developing them. Sorry for the ramble I been overthinking way to much when it comes to picking something to play I'm down to a Male Miqo'te Bard or Lalafell Summoner but starting to wonder if I shouldn't just go play another race because from what I seen there is a lot of hate for these two races.
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RE: Is the hate really that bad? |
10-06-2017, 12:53 AM
I'm curious where you've been seeing this "hate?" Every race has certain stigmas attached to them, even something as generic as Midlanders often gets dissed as "boring." Typically, these comments are from people who mean it relatively light-heartedly, with the exception of a minority people who really are that intense and judgmental with their preconceived notions of other people's RP characters. The latter you are probably dodging a bullet by not interacting with, anyway. Plenty of male Miqot'e and plenty of lalafell have no issue finding RP and friends, and plenty are great role-players, many breaking the stigmas and some even being great despite falling into the generic stereotypes of their races. Neither are just targeted for random harassment because of their race (unless you count /pets, because apparently lalafell get driveby /pets all the time and for some reason that seriously peeves some people). Play what you want, because anyone who will not interact with you based on your character's race is no one worth being around!
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10-06-2017, 12:55 AM
Thanks Faye! Sorry it was just a overthinking on my part I been stewing over what character to play first and I'm going through all the research I can possibly do on it before I take the plunge in
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10-06-2017, 01:07 AM
Play what you find interesting. If the character's well-written, then players who appreciate interesting characters will cluster around you. Just don't let people get to you, and, don't be afraid to stick up for yourself OOCly if someone just won't take a hint (for instance, if you're playing a lalafell and they keep cracking jokes about your character being a child, ICly, and you rebuff the jokes, and they persist with it, don't be shy about asking them OOCly if they'd mind easing up on that, since you're intending to play a serious character - the player might not realize they're hurting your feelings. On the other hand, they might throw out the classic excuse players make when their characters are being jerks, and tell you "oh it's just all IC, hahaha, don't take IC into OOC bruh, ugh", in which case, alright, they've just told you what you need to know - they're more interested in their own luls than in trying to cooperatively enjoy time with you, so, move right along and let them go annoy somebody else).
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RE: Is the hate really that bad? |
10-06-2017, 03:10 AM
(10-06-2017, 12:15 AM)V Wrote: So I been doing a lot of reading about Miqo'te and Lalafell lore wise and such and so far out of all the races they interest me the most in terms of lore and overall look... Excellent choice! I personally like tend towards the less human races as it allows for extra dimensions to explore. (10-06-2017, 12:15 AM)V Wrote: ...after reading all the negative stuff its kind of discouraged me from playing them and roleplaying with them... Negative stuff? I don't see them getting any more than other races. I think each race has those who like them and those that dislike them. I have not seen anyone hating on a race. I am also concerned that you will reinforce this negative view that you have by avoiding RPing with anyone playing these races? Why would you do that? (10-06-2017, 12:15 AM)V Wrote: ...I might as well just go hyur and be done with it... I am confused why you would jump from Miqo'te to Hyur and not consider Roe or Elezen or AuRa? (10-06-2017, 12:15 AM)V Wrote: ...Keep in mind I usually play more serious roles (not dark) but my characters are not something to take as a joke because I literally spend hours on developing them... Many of us spend more than hours on our characters, please be assured many take this very seriously. I would suggest that you find a suitably serious FC, as that is likely to be the determining factor and not what race you choose. (10-06-2017, 12:15 AM)V Wrote: ...I'm down to a Male Miqo'te Bard or Lalafell Summoner but starting to wonder if I shouldn't just go play another race because from what I seen there is a lot of hate for these two races... Again, I am not seeing this hate? You are likely to get more heat from Lore Strict folks overplaying a Summoner than your race. My advice, play what you want, what embodies your vision. Picking something to avoid the hate you feel is there will likely always have that bitter taste of compromise. And remember there is always Fantasia. Please don't side with this view of Hate, even if some do hate these races that is no reason to accept it as something you should also practice. Char: [Nebula Stardancer]  FC: [East Eerie Trading Co]
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RE: Is the hate really that bad? |
10-06-2017, 08:16 AM
I have the same question as everyone else - where are you seeing this hate? Because I main a miqo'te and lalafell and I've never had people tell me that they won't RP with me because of the race I play. If they did, it would be obvious that they weren't worth my time anyways. I think you should play what you want and enjoy it. You're paying a subscription after all to have fun here. A miqo'te bard and a lalafell summoner sound like great concepts. I can't wait to see what sort of personality traits and backstories you develop for these characters.Â
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RE: Is the hate really that bad? |
10-06-2017, 09:02 AM
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(10-06-2017, 12:53 AM)Faye Wrote: I'm curious where you've been seeing this "hate?" (10-06-2017, 03:10 AM)Nebbs Wrote: Negative stuff? I don't see them getting any more than other races. I think each race has those who like them and those that dislike them. I have not seen anyone hating on a race. Alright... while I fully agree on the "play what you want, good folks will RP with you", OP's concern about certain races and encountering problems with RP is not unfounded and has been discussed at length here on the RPC. Is it considered "weird: to play a Miqo'te Cat Boiz.. Why.. (this is a void thread. meant to be taken with a grain of salt.) Going Lalafell, distinct decline in RP? Lalafell RP Lalafell not taken seriously in RP. So. We have plenty of examples that are easy to find right here on this forum. (I'm not even going to bother with the OF or Reddit. But then, they hate on RPers in general.) I have had issues being taken seriously as my Lalafell on multiple occasions. Sadly, most of this was with people who were in my FC and thought it was funny to abuse Lalafell. While they did come around a little so that my RP improved, I have since left and have heard that they are back to their old ways with new targets. I also play a Seeker Nunh. Yes, there is some reflexive stereotyping that goes on with some people regarding Miqo'te of any gender. In truth, people who tend to give others shit about what race they are playing are not folks you want to roleplay with anyways. So, yes, play what you want! If you create a character with a "Well I wanted to play this, but was too scared to", that can keep you from really connecting with them and can cause more problems with your enjoyment of the character. Loving your own character idea goes a long way in developing good RP and enjoying the game. |
RE: Is the hate really that bad? |
10-06-2017, 09:53 AM
I have never seen any actual hate for any of the races, but some of them are indeed treated less seriously than others.
In particular lalafell is far too often treated as a joke race - even by people who ought to know better. (If I had a gil for every "lalafell = popoto" comparison I have heard I could probably buy a large house by now.) This does not mean you shouldn't play a lalafell - but be prepared that you will occasionally find it more difficult to be taken seriously than you would if playing some other race. |
RE: Is the hate really that bad? |
10-06-2017, 10:00 AM
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(10-06-2017, 09:53 AM)Skae Wrote: I have never seen any actual hate for any of the races, but some of them are indeed treated less seriously than others. From this thread. (07-10-2016, 02:59 PM)Yandros Wrote: It really comes down to what people have said. Out of the races in game, Lalafell hold the highest chance of being trollplayers. Those folks that are obviously out to troll and bother you, but the moment you call them out, cry about how "I was just IC! It is how my character is!". (07-10-2016, 03:41 PM)As Wrote: Yea, most of my Lalafell experiences have been pretty bad outside of my FC. (07-10-2016, 08:07 PM)Yandros Wrote: Unfortunately I know the hate. I used to play both blood elves and pandaren in WoW, and both were on the receiving side of a fair amount of player bias. (07-10-2016, 11:10 PM)Yandros Wrote: Caspar, I stand fully by what I said. It is what I have experienced, and how I both view the subject matter and how I choose to play. Kinda sorry not sorry that it seems to have bothered you so much? But in the end, yeah. After bad experiences with creeps, I tend to take a: "Show me you are different, and I will happily rp with you" viewpoint. Maybe that is not the nicest way to play, but it saves me drama in the game. I have personally had one of the few RPers on Atomos spam /disgust at me every time we encountered each other for changing into a Lalafell. I've been straight up told that my Lalafell can't be taken seriously in RP just due to being a Lalafell and while I guess this doesn't count as "hate"? the end result is the same. ETA: I want to clarify that it's a noisy minority who acts like this! But to say it doesn't exist is disingenuous. |
RE: Is the hate really that bad? |
10-06-2017, 10:30 AM
I play a female Seeker Miqo'te that I made when I knew like, no lore (her name has no ties to a tribe, generally pretty weird for a seeker) but people still have come to really like her, despite her race and stuff :-)
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RE: Is the hate really that bad? |
10-06-2017, 11:03 AM
Heya,
I've been playing a male Keeper for a while, and while there are some stereotypes out there, there's only been two actual cases that might fit the bill in a bit over two years. One of those was from someone I'd rubbed the wrong way in a previous game that carried a grudge so I don't think that really counts. But I guess it's the situations you put yourself in and the folks you surround yourself with combined with how you play the character. While a lot of people don't take lallafels seriously at first glance, once you present yourself and show a bit of consistency the stereotypes fall off.  If folks you run with are incapable of doing so and taking you seriously as one, then it may be time to find a new circle? |
RE: Is the hate really that bad? |
10-06-2017, 12:20 PM
Raubahn adopted a lala voiced by Nobuyuki Hiyama then gave him his sword to rekt Imperials
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RE: Is the hate really that bad? |
10-06-2017, 12:32 PM
Short answer: Its not actually that bad! ^_^
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