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Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - Moondoggie - 08-29-2013

Is it just because it's like a Pokemon? Honestly everywhere i go in game people reference it XD.

I like to think Arcanist is popular because it's such a versatile class but it's probably because you get a Pokemon.

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - Nimarhie - 08-29-2013

How dare you compare the ultra-cuteness of the Carby to... that. Now apologize to my pikachu, you have offended her sensibilities!

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - LiadansWhisper - 08-29-2013

My Topaz Carby tanks better than 90% of the tanks I've run into.  :-\

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - Remis Locke - 08-29-2013

(08-29-2013, 07:34 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: My Topaz Carby tanks better than 90% of the tanks I've run into.  :-\

As a Tank I should be offended by this, but it's entirely true.

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - Draheim - 08-29-2013

Having dealt with Arcanists and their Carby's, I can tell you this with almost 100% certainty. The Carbuncle simply have a higher threat generation than a GLD tank. That alone, does not make them a better tank. They won't move out of one shot effects, nor pick up adds on the fly.

They also annoy me to no end when I'm trying to do my freaking job as the TANK, and your little rat is ripping aggro off me at the same time the archer is doing the same to a different mob, while the THM is doing it to the third mob!

End rant. Simply put, please, for the love of god and me not tearing out my hair, put your Topaz's away during a dungeon. For those of us that have been tanks for years(myself, nearly a decade across a half dozen or so games), it's nothing but a pest. To those trying to LEARN to tank, it's a crutch that I highly doubt will be viable for higher level and end game tanking, which will result in more and more low skilled tanks when we get to that point.

Please, use your emerald Carby's for dungeons when you have a tank!

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - KitKat - 08-29-2013

I think it's the combination of having a combat companion, a cute little pet, and it being the shiny, new class that is fueling the obsession with carbuncles.

I wanted to start in Limsa Lominsa when early access began because I had tried the story quests in both Ul'dah and Gridania in beta, but I don't like Marauder and I didn't want to add to the carbuncle problem. Alas.

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - LiadansWhisper - 08-29-2013

(08-29-2013, 09:51 PM)Draheim Wrote: Having dealt with Arcanists and their Carby's, I can tell you this with almost 100% certainty. The Carbuncle simply have a higher threat generation than a GLD tank. That alone, does not make them a better tank. They won't move out of one shot effects, nor pick up adds on the fly.

They also annoy me to no end when I'm trying to do my freaking job as the TANK, and your little rat is ripping aggro off me at the same time the archer is doing the same to a different mob, while the THM is doing it to the third mob!

End rant. Simply put, please, for the love of god and me not tearing out my hair, put your Topaz's away during a dungeon. For those of us that have been tanks for years(myself, nearly a decade across a half dozen or so games), it's nothing but a pest. To those trying to LEARN to tank, it's a crutch that I highly doubt will be viable for higher level and end game tanking, which will result in more and more low skilled tanks when we get to that point.

Please, use your emerald Carby's for dungeons when you have a tank!

I think you misunderstand what I was saying.

I never let my Carby loose in a dungeon.  Even the Emerald one will knock your mobs back if it gets in melee range.  However, I keep getting into dungeons where the tank ignores one or more adds and they beeline for the healer.  In that situation, yes, I will pull the Topaz Carby out and sic it on whatever add is beating the healer's face in.

I do this because it's happened to me as a healer so many times in this game.

Otherwise, when I have my Topaz Carby out, he sits on passive and I actually take a rather large DPS hit for not only having him out but having him do nothing in hopes the tank will do his job.  The last tank I got on my Arcanist...I don't even know what was on his mind.  He would RP walk up to the mobs and /wave at them, then hit one and ignore the others.  What is Flash?  Oh, I'll use it when the mobs are nowhere near me.  That's how it works, right?  Right?

If someone has a Topaz carby out and it's pulling off you, tell them to put it away or on passive.  But I'ma keep using mine because apparently most tanks in this game still aren't sure how to...well...tank.  Sad

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - Draheim - 08-29-2013

My apologies Lidian. Didnt mean to come across so harshly. Just something that grates on me. I can assure you, however, if we get into a dungeon together and I'm tanking, you can rest easy knowing I'll keep everything held firmly. I do hope your future tanks are better than your past ones!

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - Naunet - 08-29-2013

(08-29-2013, 09:51 PM)Draheim Wrote: End rant. Simply put, please, for the love of god and me not tearing out my hair, put your Topaz's away during a dungeon. For those of us that have been tanks for years(myself, nearly a decade across a half dozen or so games), it's nothing but a pest. To those trying to LEARN to tank, it's a crutch that I highly doubt will be viable for higher level and end game tanking, which will result in more and more low skilled tanks when we get to that point.

I've told numerous arcanists already to put their pet away. It's incredibly frustrating when they just laugh it off, but really - it's just proper group etiquette and it's asking them to do their job. They're a dps class. They should have their dps pet out.

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - shotgunbadger - 08-30-2013

Yea I love my Carby for soloing and think he (shut up he's a boy) is totally the cutest thing but there's a time and place. In an instance I let the tank do their thing unless they specifically say otherwise.

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - Desmond Aryll - 08-30-2013

New players will make mistakes, Tank, Arcanist or otherwise.

I don't mind the Topaz, I view it in the same way as mages putting an add to sleep. Just another way to hold 'em before we get to them. No big deal. I've played with quite a few Arcanists who swap in/out Emerald and Topaz on the fly depending on the situation. It's just going to take some time to get the majority on board with a new class.

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - Shae'ra - 08-30-2013

(08-29-2013, 10:48 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: I never let my Carby loose in a dungeon.  Even the Emerald one will knock your mobs back if it gets in melee range.  However, I keep getting into dungeons where the tank ignores one or more adds and they beeline for the healer.  In that situation, yes, I will pull the Topaz Carby out and sic it on whatever add is beating the healer's face in.

I do this because it's happened to me as a healer so many times in this game.
 As someone who is a healer: I thank you for that. There are many times in which I have had heals interrupted by being attacked which puts everyone at risk if it continues on. I'd rather have to heal a tank and the pet tanking vs try to heal myself and the tank while fighting through interruptions. 

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - LiadansWhisper - 08-30-2013

(08-29-2013, 11:29 PM)Draheim Wrote: My apologies Lidian. Didnt mean to come across so harshly. Just something that grates on me. I can assure you, however, if we get into a dungeon together and I'm tanking, you can rest easy knowing I'll keep everything held firmly. I do hope your future tanks are better than your past ones!

I've just about given up on pugging.  The tanks in my FC are good.  My friend (who is the reason I'm playing this game, tho he's not an RPer!) is excellent.  But I keep getting Derpy McDerpistan as tanks in random pugs.  On the other hand, I've love to run with ya sometime.  ^_^

(08-30-2013, 12:57 AM)Nahv Wrote:
(08-29-2013, 10:48 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: I never let my Carby loose in a dungeon.  Even the Emerald one will knock your mobs back if it gets in melee range.  However, I keep getting into dungeons where the tank ignores one or more adds and they beeline for the healer.  In that situation, yes, I will pull the Topaz Carby out and sic it on whatever add is beating the healer's face in.

I do this because it's happened to me as a healer so many times in this game.
 As someone who is a healer: I thank you for that. There are many times in which I have had heals interrupted by being attacked which puts everyone at risk if it continues on. I'd rather have to heal a tank and the pet tanking vs try to heal myself and the tank while fighting through interruptions. 

And guess what!  You don't have to heal my pet, because I have a spell to do just that for you.  And yes I will, to take the pressure off you.

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - Aduu Avagnar - 08-30-2013

I agree with Liadan. But I have had a larger number of decent tanks in pugs. The only dungeon I have had to pull Topaz on was Hauke manor when the healer couldn't keep the tank up with the adds on the last boss. So we just got Topaz to gather them all up.

And now I am a Scholar, I don't even get a tanking pet. Tongue

But yes, the primary obsession is probably that its the new class.

RE: Just something that amuses me but...What is the obsession with Carbuncle? - Clover - 08-30-2013

Oh, so that's how it is. I saw a tank kindly asking the arcanist to put their Topaz away, and I'd been wondering why. The mystery unfolds now!

This is good to know for the day I have to take the Arcanist route, which I'll be forced to play if I want to become a White Mage. I'll try to keep my pets away when in dungeons *nods*.