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Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Kage - 11-28-2015 Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV Corvinoobus Wrote:Hey guys, RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Aysun - 11-28-2015 Still love our Haurchefant.. he was a sweetie. RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Kage - 11-28-2015 To be honest, I have to check at what the old differences was/are. I remember seeing something about it with the Heavensturn event when he was touting the wonders of horse masks but I don't remember what it really was. Just not as flamboyant? Anyway... there are some forum posts in the official forums thread that was made that just make me facepalm a bit RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Edda - 11-28-2015 J-J-Japanese audio master race! I always wondered about why they changed his dialogue and mannerisms so egregiously (and I always threw shit around about it too, but that is neither here nor there), so it's nice to finally have an open acknowledgement and reason. Even if it is kind of a crappy one... but I do understand. Next they're going to apologize for killing him, right? I love you Haurchefant. I love you. RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Oli! - 11-28-2015 The phrasing of this article sure does dance around the issue a lot. For myself and the other uninitiated, can someone please put what they're talking about as straightforwardly as possible? RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Hyakki - 11-28-2015 (11-28-2015, 01:16 AM)Oli! Wrote: The phrasing of this article sure does dance around the issue a lot. Haurchefant was censored because it was thought he'd be seen as "too gay" for western audiences. I didn't get that vibe from the JP version though, I thought he was going to backstab the WoL not become their bff. RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Kage - 11-28-2015 Haurchefant in the Japanese version can come off as extremely perverted and creepy-harasser to the player. Edit: Depends on how much of a fucking dumbass 'trigger' you have. RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Oli! - 11-28-2015 (11-28-2015, 01:32 AM)Mamushi Wrote:(11-28-2015, 01:16 AM)Oli! Wrote: The phrasing of this article sure does dance around the issue a lot. Well that's lame but I can see why they would have decided to censor it like that. At least they're aware that it was unnecessary and potentially damaging now, though. RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Valence - 11-28-2015 (11-28-2015, 01:33 AM)Kage Wrote: Haurchefant in the Japanese version can come off as extremely perverted and creepy-harasser to the player. Well that's lame, it could have been really fun actually. More tri dimensional characters please. Current Haurchefant is not bad per se, but he sure feels more... tame, flat. Also, I'm a bit disappointed to see that kind of decisions being made just out of fear to draw unwanted homophobia among westerner players, because that's really the only reason I can find behind. RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Kage - 11-28-2015 There are some people who think that this type of talk borders on sexual harassment and inappropriate behavior, especially when a male is the one expressing it to females. It's not just because it might be considered gay because Haurchefant is male and your player character is male (though I believe it did play a part, I don't think homophobia is the only reason). HAURCHEFANT: Oh, I was waiting for you, [PLAYER]! I had heard you would be attending this meeting, so I impatiently waited for you to arrive! Your body is beautiful as always… splendid! It has been a long time since you last visited Coerthas — do you find it cold? It is warmer in my private chambers, so if you’d like… ALPHINAUD: That would help a lot. I’m not very good with the cold. HAURCHEFANT: ……well, well, Ser Alphinaud. You arrived rather early…………… HAURCHEFANT: What supplies were lost to the heretics, you ask? Hmm, they were fundamentally commonplace goods chosen by House Fortemps. Clothes suited for hot weather, in which adventurers might do heavy lifting while still showing off their bulging muscles… in this area, such revealing clothing is hard to purchase. How regrettable that it was lost… "Haa... Irresistible... You and my men...panting...Splendid..." "...By the way, how about you stay for the night before you depart...?" A lot of people might not have issues with this. There are some who may see it as perverted, harassing, etc RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Telluride - 11-28-2015 I would rather have flamboyant Haurchefant than "Dead because SE's writers are really bad with the concept of earned drama and are more interested in letting villains get away forever and filling in the tension with arbitrary, forced character deaths because George R R Martin is cool right now" Haurchefant. RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Caspar - 11-28-2015 I thought he had the sound of the stereotypical "camp" characters pretty common in JP media. That never bothered me, but I wonder if people would have found it offensive. Though with a female character, his dialogue doesn't change, so maybe that's not quite it. RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Cato - 11-28-2015 (11-28-2015, 07:09 PM)Telluride Wrote: I would rather have flamboyant Haurchefant than "Dead because SE's writers are really bad with the concept of earned drama and are more interested in letting villains get away forever and filling in the tension with arbitrary, forced character deaths because George R R Martin is cool right now" Haurchefant. To be fair, Haurchefant didn't really die to a villain. He died to an antagonist. A society doesn't change abruptly without major losses - if anything, they should have killed off more than just Haurchefant. Perhaps some of the Scions? I don't feel as if his death was done for 'cheap drama' either. It was handled pretty tastefully. I feel like a lot of people don't want any character that they like to die and so they end up claiming that the writing is 'terrible'. Something which I feel is rather unfair. I won't pretend as if it's the best writing around but as far as MMO's go? It's definitely a lot better than what certain other games are offering up on a platter. Heavensward was an immense improvement over the 2.0 stuff I felt. Plus Final Fantasy games have always been bold enough to kill off major characters. RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Valence - 11-28-2015 Thanks for the spoilers, guys... Anyhow, I see, so that's not gay per se, but more than a little obsessed with kinky stuff and lewd remarks? Ah well, I suppose it doesn't bother me because i'm seeing it with the eyes of a roleplayer, seeing a character for what it is... I guess that the average player could take it personally yeah... RE: Regarding the Localization of Haurchefant in the EN/FR/DE Versions of FFXIV - Kellach Woods - 11-29-2015 If it was that flamboyant, the backlash would have been people being annoyed with him and wanting to kill him way before, y'know. Like, even Shadow Hearts was more subtle about the homosexuality of their characters than this, and we're talking about the game where the following scene is a thing that happens (skip to 4:00) : [youtube]oyOQDvkkZo4[/youtube] I'm glad they changed him, but they could have easily kept the mannerisms while changing the dialogue. Not glad they went with the easier route. |