(06-06-2015, 12:05 AM)Nako Wrote: it is likely there because it is there in WoW, and this game does borrow heavily from that, but I feel diverges in many, many good ways. Also, the real end game is Coil (soon to be alexander), not cosmetics. Unless you are refering to the coil gear.

(06-05-2015, 08:40 PM)OttoVann Wrote: Wait a second, do I need to have all of these shitty MSQs done before I can do Early Access?

(06-06-2015, 11:37 AM)Graeham Wrote: It's fine to dislike specific aspects of the game. What's not fine is implying that the developers - who have been meeting immense success so far - should suddenly change large aspects of the game to appease what is likely nothing more than a vocal minority of players.

(06-06-2015, 12:05 AM)Nako Wrote: as I said, an inconvenience. I need 34 levels of lancer to do my job well? fair enough, lets go get them. and if you've been a mage? you've likely built up a sizable ammount of gear and soldiery whilst playing that mage. Most of my classes were already decently geared by the moment they hit 50 due to greed rolls.

it is likely there because it is there in WoW, and this game does borrow heavily from that, but I feel diverges in many, many good ways. Also, the real end game is Coil (soon to be alexander), not cosmetics. Unless you are refering to the coil gear.

(06-06-2015, 12:18 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: I honestly don't agree with you on this one.  It's not "punishment."  It's a way of extending the content, and it's practiced in one form or another by every successful MMO.

(06-06-2015, 12:18 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: Staples in every successful, raiding-focused MMO.  WoW does it.  SWTOR does it.  Rift does it.  Wildstar does it.  Name me a wildly successful MMO with a serious raiding endgame that doesn't engage in content gating via tomes, raid lockouts, etc?

(06-06-2015, 12:18 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: That's a personal opinion.  There are many people very devoted to the PvE endgame, and you have no right to denigrate their focus.

What's more, you were complaining earlier that SE won't let us grind Tomes and gear all day erry day, but now you're complaining about having to grind classes to get cross-classes.  I'm entirely confused as to how you are working this out logically.

Quote:First off, equipment rewards will be added to the Main Scenario quests. He didn't go into too much detail here, but presumably this will help you reach the item level requirements for duties, if not bring you all the way there by itself.

Second, so that you can do the required content without getting stuck in queues for an eternity (especially for dps classes), players new to a given duty will be placed in a priority queue. Basically, you can go straight to the front of the line so you can progress your quests quickly.

Additionally, pre-50 main scenario quests will give double experience so you don't have to do side content, and if you own Heavensward you'll get experience from the 2.1-2.55 quests as well, so you can get a few levels before even entering Ishgard.

And if you have friends or a helpful FC, they're adding the ability to join with a partial group, bypass the duty finder, and not get level synced. (This part is actually from other articles) With this, if you really want to skip ahead even with the inprovements, you can just have a level 60 player rush you through the old content quickly. There are plenty of great FC's out there that would help with this.

(06-06-2015, 01:27 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: It's been posted but in partial ways.
Even if the new players get priority in 2.1-2.55 content, it's more the number of available players at those dungeons that worries me rather than the priority thing. It's cool don't get me wrong, but it's really just a bandaid on a more grave wound in my opinion.

(06-06-2015, 01:27 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: It's been posted but in partial ways.
Even if the new players get priority in 2.1-2.55 content, it's more the number of available players at those dungeons that worries me rather than the priority thing. It's cool don't get me wrong, but it's really just a bandaid on a more grave wound in my opinion.

(06-06-2015, 01:42 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: I just wonder how much less people you will need to run them. If it's just 3/7 then it doesn't help as much, but if you can duo them or outright halve the amount of people then yeah I can definitely see it helping.

(06-06-2015, 02:19 PM)Caspar Wrote: Wasn't the number of people who've made it to Final Coil on Western servers something embarassing like 12%?
I think it's awesome Square is even trying to make content harder. It takes balls to basically admit the game is too easy globally and try to push things forward. I felt that it was what they were saying with Steps, that we need to learn to play better together and up our game, because it was essentially easy content, but super hard due to the generally non-communicative and argumentative nature of English-speaking players. Nerfing it gave me mixed feelings; on one hand it was a drag to have to attempt Trials multiple times a day due to Steps, but on the other hand, I loved it because it could have been an excellent ultimatum: "Get your act together, there's going to be more stuff like this come HW."

I think others have said that they feel the game is catering to hardcore players too much already without HW in this thread, and I just wanted to point out that simply isn't true. If anything they need more content than they already have, as catering to those players will increase the game's longevity as more and more casual players get the practice necessary to become hardcore. Catering to a transient casual crowd who like new story content and leave the game when they finish collecting all the new low hanging fruit is not good for the game, and I'm glad they're moving away from that to an extent.

(06-06-2015, 02:25 PM)Nako Wrote:

(06-06-2015, 02:19 PM)Caspar Wrote: Wasn't the number of people who've made it to Final Coil on Western servers something embarassing like 12%?
I think it's awesome Square is even trying to make content harder. It takes balls to basically admit the game is too easy globally and try to push things forward. I felt that it was what they were saying with Steps, that we need to learn to play better together and up our game, because it was essentially easy content, but super hard due to the generally non-communicative and argumentative nature of English-speaking players. Nerfing it gave me mixed feelings; on one hand it was a drag to have to attempt Trials multiple times a day due to Steps, but on the other hand, I loved it because it could have been an excellent ultimatum: "Get your act together, there's going to be more stuff like this come HW."

I think others have said that they feel the game is catering to hardcore players too much already without HW in this thread, and I just wanted to point out that simply isn't true. If anything they need more content than they already have, as catering to those players will increase the game's longevity as more and more casual players get the practice necessary to become hardcore. Catering to a transient casual crowd who like new story content and leave the game when they finish collecting all the new low hanging fruit is not good for the game, and I'm glad they're moving away from that to an extent.

The number of hardcore players (I hate that term) is most likely lower than the number of casuals (That term also). It is usually, in recent times especially, the casuals that make up the majority of a player base. Gone are the days where the hardcore people were the sole makeup of a player base.

I am not saying it is a bad thing to have hard content. I love hard content, and the challenges that come with. But the devs have likely looked at the numbers and tried to strike a balance between the two.