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RE: So, another noob question. - Warren Castille - 12-15-2014

Regarding the spruced-up FF7 lore:

Take it with a grain of salt. XIV's lore set out from the get-go to be reminiscent of older games and homage them as well. Ceruleum draws parallels to the Lifestream and mako, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're the same with some minor retconning.

Meteor being a spell that's usable by players is similarly questionable. After all, it's NOT just black mages who have access to this ability. Summoners who have specialized in conjuring forth the essence of a Primal can... also apparently wrest lesser rocks out of space? Wait, what? That doesn't make a lick of sense!

...just like it doesn't make sense that a monk, a specialist in hand to hand and spiritual chakras, can unleash their ultimate attack in the form of... a dozen giant sword chops from a manifested weapon of pure energy. Wait, where was that in the manual...?

I think we'd all be better off if we stopped considering Limit Breaks as canon abilities.

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Regarding Aaron, you hit the nail on the head. You've revealed the ability to some people and they've been content to work with it. You can't ever please everybody, so wondering how you can make it work for random Quicksand RP isn't viable. In your example of some guy randomly plucking off the eyepatch, it would be more reasonable for your character to overreact and duck out of the way, maybe lose his cool (hee, puns) and get very defensive over the attempt. "In-house" RP works great for these sort of asides, in my experience.

If I wrote into my backstory that Warren was an immovable object of perfect defense and could never be seriously harmed in combat (ignore my Grindstone record for the sake of this hypothetical), that wouldn't fly with anyone in "real" RP; I could never expect the Quicksand to take it seriously and I'd just be accused of godmoding. If, though, I was RPing in a smaller circle and it came out that Warren was cursed to never be bested in combat or something, that's workable with a group.

tl;dr If you've got magic psychic ice powers, don't bust them out in public unless you want OOC bitching and complaining. There's no precedent for anything like that in the game at all, and while it's not unreasonable, it's not reasonable either.

RE: So, another noob question. - Aaron - 12-15-2014

Yeah I plan to go that route now.  A few people said it was interesting to deal with so I think I'll keep it. 

Thanks for the input as always also lol

RE: So, another noob question. - TheFanciestBard - 12-16-2014

Here comes the fun police. I am one of those people that has a sort of mental 'point chart' for my characters. Based on age and back story I figure I allow a character a certain amount of skills and varying levels of proficiency. I'll use my own character for an example.

Tasa is about 45 years old. She's been swinging an axe for about 30 of them and has killed a lot of people and survived a lot of shit to get where she is. So.. She gets a lot of points, but only for combat stuff. To make it simple, let's say she has 30 points. 1 for each year she was active. It takes 10 points to be a master of something soo..

10 into axing stuff, 10 into being strong, and 10 in the 'I can take a hit and keep going' thing. This also plays into her being a warrior IC and having this inner beast that further compliments the kind of character I want to create. She's a hulking berserker that can pretty much level an army with an axe... And little else. She knows jack about fist fighting, can't shoot a bow worth a damn, and is useless for magic.

Onto the topic at hand. I view these kinds of things as "Unfair points" that get added to a character. You not only have your original abilities, but you also have this Deus ex Machina feeling ability that could be seen as a 'I don't feel like losing' thing. I appreciate you're using it mostly for PvE, but if you tried to pull this on me in an IC fight I'd probably have a few questions for you.

Also.. This is just a personal note, but why tails? It just... I dunno, I guess Naruto has really soured the whole tail thing but I just see it as one of those anime tropes that kinda just feels forced. If they were these hard, deadly claws or blades along his body, it'd seem more fitting.. But tails?

Ultimately, it is your choice to add what you want to your character and, trust me, we all add silly things from time to time that make us happy. That's the real point, enjoy yourself. I'm someone who enjoys realistic, easy to balance characters because I like a good text fight once in awhile. If you enjoy something more epic and anime and memorable, good on ya~! It's just not really my thing.

RE: So, another noob question. - Aaron - 12-16-2014

(12-16-2014, 03:32 AM)Tasa Rhyzul Wrote: Here comes the fun police. I am one of those people that has a sort of mental 'point chart' for my characters. Based on age and back story I figure I allow a character a certain amount of skills and varying levels of proficiency. I'll use my own character for an example.

Tasa is about 45 years old. She's been swinging an axe for about 30 of them and has killed a lot of people and survived a lot of shit to get where she is. So.. She gets a lot of points, but only for combat stuff. To make it simple, let's say she has 30 points. 1 for each year she was active. It takes 10 points to be a master of something soo..

10 into axing stuff, 10 into being strong, and 10 in the 'I can take a hit and keep going' thing. This also plays into her being a warrior IC and having this inner beast that further compliments the kind of character I want to create. She's a hulking berserker that can pretty much level an army with an axe... And little else. She knows jack about fist fighting, can't shoot a bow worth a damn, and is useless for magic.

Onto the topic at hand. I view these kinds of things as "Unfair points" that get added to a character. You not only have your original abilities, but you also have this Deus ex Machina feeling ability that could be seen as a 'I don't feel like losing' thing. I appreciate you're using it mostly for PvE, but if you tried to pull this on me in an IC fight I'd probably have a few questions for you.

Also.. This is just a personal note, but why tails? It just... I dunno, I guess Naruto has really soured the whole tail thing but I just see it as one of those anime tropes that kinda just feels forced. If they were these hard, deadly claws or blades along his body, it'd seem more fitting.. But tails?

Ultimately, it is your choice to add what you want to your character and, trust me, we all add silly things from time to time that make us happy. That's the real point, enjoy yourself. I'm someone who enjoys realistic, easy to balance characters because I like a good text fight once in awhile. If you enjoy something more epic and anime and memorable, good on ya~! It's just not really my thing.
Ew Naruto? Lol no. This,
[Image: kaneki-ken-kagune-white-hair-tokyo-ghoul...40x900.jpg]

One thing to make claws badass, whole nother thing to make a tail badass.

RE: So, another noob question. - TheFanciestBard - 12-16-2014

(12-16-2014, 07:31 AM)Aaron Wrote:
(12-16-2014, 03:32 AM)Tasa Rhyzul Wrote: Snip for justice
Ew Naruto? Lol no. This,
[Image: kaneki-ken-kagune-white-hair-tokyo-ghoul...40x900.jpg]

One thing to make claws badass, whole nother thing to make a tail badass.
Almost looks like scorpion tails. Kinda neat, was mentally picturing a midlander dude in ninja armor with 4 icy fox tails channeling DBZ, but that's just me. I guess the idea of making something unique, if it works, is tempting. I'm still just wondering why, from your character's perspective, if he even has control over it, he would choose to have these extra limbs to fight with instead of just like.. Great swords coming out of his arms. Seems like something that would require some training since I doubt fighting with them is as easy as throwing in a few extra twirls while swinging around whatever weapon it is your character has chosen for himself. Especially true if your character uses a spear or something. I can see him standing a good few yards out of his spear length then suddenly channeling the energy down the hilt for unexpected bursts of range. Hmm.. Sounds kinda like a black mage with a polearm, now that'd be a sight~ Jumplars live again!

RE: So, another noob question. - Aaron - 12-16-2014

LMFAO! You pictured ninja fox + dbz tails?

Ew no o_o lol

And turning arms into stuff like that would probably make me (and him) feel like a cyborg.